diff --git a/pyfpdb/HUD_main.py b/pyfpdb/HUD_main.py
index f7979552..bae58825 100755
--- a/pyfpdb/HUD_main.py
+++ b/pyfpdb/HUD_main.py
@@ -35,9 +35,6 @@ import traceback
 
 (options, argv) = Options.fpdb_options()
 
-if not options.errorsToConsole:
-    print "Note: error output is being logged. Any major error will be reported there _only_."
-
 import thread
 import time
 import string
@@ -79,6 +76,14 @@ class HUD_main(object):
             log = Configuration.get_logger("logging.conf", "hud", log_dir=self.config.dir_log)
             log.info("HUD_main starting")
             log.info("Using db name = %s" % (db_name))
+
+            if not options.errorsToConsole:
+                 fileName = os.path.join(self.config.dir_log, 'HUD-errors.txt')
+                 print "Note: error output is being diverted to\n"+fileName \
+                       + "\nAny major error will be reported there _only_.\n" 
+                 errorFile = open(fileName, 'w', 0)
+                 sys.stderr = errorFile
+
             self.hud_dict = {}
             self.hud_params = self.config.get_hud_ui_parameters()
 
diff --git a/pyfpdb/fpdb.py b/pyfpdb/fpdb.py
index 5bef3503..d5e0350d 100755
--- a/pyfpdb/fpdb.py
+++ b/pyfpdb/fpdb.py
@@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ if os.name == 'nt':
         raw_input("Press ENTER to continue.")
         exit()
 
-print "Python " + sys.version[0:3] + '...\n'
+print "Python " + sys.version[0:3] + '...'
 
 import traceback
 import threading
@@ -62,12 +62,6 @@ import string
 cl_options = string.join(sys.argv[1:])
 (options, argv) = Options.fpdb_options()
 
-if not options.errorsToConsole:
-    print "Note: error output is being diverted to fpdb-error-log.txt and HUD-error.txt. Any major error will be reported there _only_."
-    errorFile = open('fpdb-error-log.txt', 'w', 0)
-    sys.stderr = errorFile
-
-#import logging
 import logging, logging.config
 
 try:
@@ -910,6 +904,13 @@ This program is licensed under the AGPL3, see docs"""+os.sep+"agpl-3.0.txt")
         self.window.show()
         self.load_profile()
 
+        if not options.errorsToConsole:
+            fileName = os.path.join(self.config.dir_log, 'fpdb-errors.txt')
+            print "\nNote: error output is being diverted to fpdb-errors.txt and HUD-errors.txt in\n" \
+                  + self.config.dir_log + "Any major error will be reported there _only_.\n"
+            errorFile = open(fileName, 'w', 0)
+            sys.stderr = errorFile
+
         self.statusIcon = gtk.StatusIcon()
         if os.path.exists(os.path.join(sys.path[0], '../gfx/fpdb-cards.png')):
             self.statusIcon.set_from_file(os.path.join(sys.path[0], '../gfx/fpdb-cards.png'))